Probably spurred on by the approaching holiday, a friend of mine who believes herself to be the consumate matchmaker of all time told me that I needed to send her my laundry list of 20 "ideal man for me" traits. (I suspect she's been reading some sort of go-out-and-git-yerself-a-man book.) So, for the sake of getting her off my back for a while, this is what I sent:

1. Someone as smart or smarter than me. Someone who likes to read more than just the newspaper.

2. Age group: Five years on either side of my own.

3. Someone who is not raising children, who does not want any more children, but who has no problem with mine. (That's usually the dealbreaker.)

4. Someone with no freaky ex's, hang-ups about ex's, or ex's who are not really ex's.

5. No drug users, alcoholics, or men with criminal histories.

6. Someone with an expansive sense of humor.

7. Someone who likes to travel.

8. Someone who is spiritual, but not dogmatically religious. (Pagan tendencies are a definite plus.)

9. Someone who is not in therapy...of any kind.

10. Someone who has a semi-normal relationship with their parents, or who is an amazingly well-adjusted orphan.

11. Someone who likes to be outdoors and do outdoorsy things: e.g. gardening, camping, fishing, swimming, etc.

12. Someone with all their teeth or reasonable facsimiles thereof.

13. Someone who would be willing to relocate. I've moved enough...I'm staying here.

14. Someone who wants to buy an old barn and convert it into a house.

15. Someone who likes to ride horses.

16. Someone who is kind to animals and people.

17. Someone who loves living in the country but likes to visit the city.

18. Some liberal arts background would be nice, but not absolutely necessary.

19. Someone who earns about the same or more than me.

20. Someone who is optimistic and good-natured.

So I'll let her do the looking for me...most days I'd be happy just to find a man to take the trash out every other day...but a gal's gotta have standards. ; )

From: [identity profile] raveen.livejournal.com


Hee hee... I love your requirement number 12... I dont know if you were being serious or not... but it struck me as funny... keep up the standards... its better to be single than to be constantly in and out of unfulfilling relationships...
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From: [identity profile] catelin.livejournal.com

Teeth Are Nice


Ha! I was half-joking, but I do live in an area where toof-less men abound. As for the standards part, there's a good saying in Spanish that I live by:

Mejor sola que mal acompa?ada.

Loosely translated: Better alone than in bad company. : )

From: [identity profile] raveen.livejournal.com

Re: Teeth Are Nice


OK... I see you are from Texas... I assume from a smaller town... I can understand the teeth thing... And I agree with the saying...

From: [identity profile] blackhellkat.livejournal.com

Re: Teeth Are Nice


I had a friend who dated a tooth impaired hockey player once...he was dubbed the gummi bear. God I dunno why I thought of that....but I'm keeping my eyes open for a good candidate for you!
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From: [identity profile] catelin.livejournal.com

Re: Teeth Are Nice


Hahahaha!! Love that! I don't know what it is about us gals...but every one of the guys we fraternized with at all ended up with some sort of name. Some from my past (a selection from both my own and my friends' beaus--I won't shame myself by telling which are which!):
The Wheezer
Stimpy
P.P. Peque?o
Magnum P.I. (P.I.=Phone Impaired)
Mr. Nostrils
Mister Mafongo
Her Slave Dave
Narcolepsy Goat
Toad

From: [identity profile] warhol.livejournal.com

Re: Teeth Are Nice


oh wow, I was reading these comments and just picked up for the first time that you're actually in Texas .... I guess the first thing I read was your piece about the panhandler in LA, and, well, first impressions die hard. I'd thought you were a native Texan, transplanted. ha!

what part of Texas, if I can be a little nosy?
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From: [identity profile] catelin.livejournal.com

Re: Teeth Are Nice


Let's just say that one certain person who sporadically remembers to videotape A Fine Romance for another certain person lives near enough to deliver said videotape "in person" one of these days, should she ever be invited. (Oh, and should she ever have a babysitter for a few hours--can't ever leave that one out.) ; )

From: [identity profile] warhol.livejournal.com

Re: Teeth Are Nice


ah.... I see! practically in my backyard. actually, betcha dollars to dimes I know what @gvtc.com stands for. my mom used to use hctc as her ISP, which is right upriver from you.

the Medina-Kerrville-Comfort corridor is what I usually claim as my stomping grounds.
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From: [identity profile] catelin.livejournal.com

Re: Teeth Are Nice


Yep...Green Acres Telephone Company--my wonderful internet provider. You guessed right, though. I'm out here amongst all the lake people and speed freaks, which explains my appalling lack of a social life. ; )

From: [identity profile] tsarina.livejournal.com

teeth are important!


You must have standards! ;) Absolutely. Those strange self-help psycho-babble books on how to catch a man are humorous and disturbing reading. When I worked in the bookstore, I read that awful book The rules. eek. Weirdness.
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From: [identity profile] catelin.livejournal.com

Re: teeth are important!


I never read The Rules but there are some "rules" that we had when I was growing up that were probably just as silly...I hardly remember them all, but here are the biggies:
-Never call a young man, he should ALWAYS call you.
-Never accept a date for Saturday unless it is before Thursday (e.g. Wednesday night is the last night to get asked)
-Never do anything more than kiss on the first date
-Always have enough money to get home (just in case), but the young man pays for the date

I still cringe when I have to call even guys who are just friends...years of brainwashing to get over, eh?

From: [identity profile] mgansle.livejournal.com

building ms. right?!


Well, Cate,

if you are ever looking to swing the other direction, (except for #14) you have just described me to a tee! :)

admirable qualities indeed!

p.s. look at the new trick i just learned!
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From: [identity profile] catelin.livejournal.com

Re: building ms. right?!


Hehe! Believe me, I would have happily swung flippity-flappity flying through the air with several lovely ladies over my lifetime, and have certainly tested the possibilities. Alas, in the long run I am cursed with a preference for the male of the species.

From: [identity profile] mgansle.livejournal.com

Re: building ms. right?!


sigh... i too am cursed with the same affliction. why, oh why must we always sway towards the dark side?

From: [identity profile] chaizzilla.livejournal.com

cate, sweet cate


it's good to know what you want, b/c the tides can get awfully intense; getting lost in each other is wonderful but easily an escape into the ultimate high (later on through the fights and negotiations and telling stories and calling each other on each other's shit the merge just happens, lost doesn't apply there). and there's always something that starts off a dialogue or dance between strangers. but the One will be more amazing than anything you'll ever dream up. heck you prolly know this, it's like kids. or the Gang of 4 song.. love will get you like a case of anthrax. good list to have though b/c running down it and seeing how much you didn't get and couldn't care less about *or* how much you didn't get that actually bugs you is gonna help ground you and give you a little reality check just you and you and how do you feel about this oddling. there's no right answers, just how you feel is as real as it gets. love survives hesitation, backpedalling, even in the beginning all that stuff that people do that sometimes shoos love away in a puff of smoke is just the beginning. don't ever be afraid to be discriminating, but pay attention when you're running the list on someone what you're feeling, why things matter to you. whatever bits aren't ok aren't gonna go away until they do. i've had peeves i've shelved for a couple of years finally come out and it aches but, whew.. i finally get to really feel it and know for sure why, they hopefully don't just crumble or cringe, they're stong and realise it's about me and my innards, my unique whatever, it's gets kinda fractal from there.. :) my requirements are more than i'll admit, i wasn't high-maintenance until the real thing, but #1 it ain't going anywhere until i find myself able to totally communicate with someone and pretty much the only bullshit in the way is the stuff we're still figuring out ourselves but aren't trying to hide. kinda neato. #2 is they gotta really, sincerely, selfishly, un-needily-based, dig me in a really big way, no ambivalence or uncertainty, i don't have time for it. #3 i guess is the courage to see where it goes. my paradigms on what i thought i did & didnt like kinda faze out in light of these 3 b/c man is it rare to find those to begin with, and i dunno, i fall in love easy for just that sort of person. fortunately only 2 so far have measured up. i'm gonna make an effort to ignore any more that come along, it isn't easy to try and make loving two people work, esp when i'm not budging off the primmary/secondary pardigm. it means i'll lose the secondary even if i love them as much or they could so easily be the One if there wasn't already my One. being second with someone when you both know you have what it takes to be first is painful, and one day there's going to be a One for him. ouch. so i'd say stick with one if you were even considering otherwise. or maybe it's me finding out i don't do halfassed relationships and thus was meant to not have anyone else. wierd stuff - can you tell it's a work in progress? i can't let go, but it will end. ouch. death before death, in a sense.

what's the viable candidate situation like where you're at anyhow?
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From: [identity profile] catelin.livejournal.com

Re: cate, sweet cate


I don't really keep a "list" of things, although there are definitely a few of those that I included which are set in stone...mostly because I do have kids and my choices affect them in probably more profound ways than they affect me. Amazing how motherhood cuts right through the romantic idiot factor. I was, in my past life, a "fixer" of people...not typically co-dependent in the least, because I had no problem hauling ass if things didn't change for the better...but it attracted guys who needed "mothering" like flies. I was real good at it too--every one of my ex's married the next person they dated after me. I was the marriage "fluffer." Haha! That is ancient history though, and real kids are a lot more fun than guys who won't grow up. I still hold out hope that one of these days I will run across the person who will incite that sense of recognition, that "oh, THERE you are" feeling (and for some reason I've always had the idea that it will be when I'm much older...like in my mid-50s or early 60s). I suppose the best description for what I have yearned for but not yet found would be "kindred." As for the possibilities of the viable candidates here...it's (if you'll pardon the bad pun) Slim Pickens. Aw, but now I sound like I'm whining about it. My girlfriends worry about my lack of a mate much more than I do. I really don't mind at all, and I have an amazing and very happy life. I am self-sufficient, I have a job I love, I have two smart and healthy kids who adore me and I adore them...and I know, that just as with everything else in my life, everything that I need comes to me in its time.


From: [identity profile] chaizzilla.livejournal.com

time


the better one's own company than bad company is a good'un. that attitude should be on your list of requirements. :)

From: [identity profile] chaizzilla.livejournal.com

but wait there's more..


since i'm sorta journaling through other folk's journals & using my journal to be goofy and artyfarty in, i figured..

1. Someone as smart or smarter than me. Someone who likes to read more than just the newspaper. ----- there's a certain smart i want, pretty much the intelligence it takes to manage the 1,2&3 i mentioned above. the rest is poiks. i tend to end up with tech/sci geniuses tho, even tho my brain's remaining chutzpah seems to lean more erm.. arty? sociology? i brainstorm ideas i'll never make happen. i'm good at helping boot a programmer over a hump, & soming up w/tests to find bugs/test code.. i duno.. i thought about being a project manager but i'm too much of an intolerant asshole. :)
2. Age group: Five years on either side of my own. ----- pragmatically yeah after working with people half my age i totally grok Generation Gap. otoh i'm 6-1/2 yrs older than my mate, who's more mature than i am in a lotta ways. 5-1/2 older than the dear friend (i hate calling him secondary coz in my heart he's not, it's about knowing what i believe in and trusting my decisions to weather mixed feelings/confusion in the long run, which reinforces itself -- can't be going through incarnations like kleenex ya know..). my ex-husband was i think 5 yrs older than me and really emotionally immature.
3. Someone who is not raising children, who does not want any more children, but who has no problem with mine. (That's usually the dealbreaker.) ----- i'm trying to ignore my wierd mixed feeling about kids. i'd love to make some me & cheetah's if someone else baked em & bore em & we had a nanny coz in darwinian terms, i'd probably forget them in a field & they'd get et by something. taking care of myself is challenge enough, the times i can take care of cheetah blow my mind entirely. i know i'm not up for raising a kid. would love to donate though. :)
4. Someone with no freaky ex's, hang-ups about ex's, or ex's who are not really ex's. ----- i have a fuhreaky ex, but i also left that ex about 2-1/2 years into therapy & he didn't wanna go where i was going, even after a lotta chances to come around. my mate has a fucked up close friend he was sorta hung up on (but i mean then he met me and figured out there was way more to be had than the agony and drama peppered with occasional brilliance). i hear guys complain about chicks going for assholes, i'd say guys go for crazy chicks.
5. No drug users, alcoholics, or men with criminal histories. ----- no curent alcoholics, escapism doesn't fly with me.. errr the other two are good ideas but could mean anything w/context. then again i don't have anything remotely resembling a badge. or kids.
6. Someone with an expansive sense of humor. ----- for me it's someone who can actually get through to my stunted irony faculties, if they can figure out my humour, wuhu!

From: [identity profile] chaizzilla.livejournal.com


7. Someone who likes to travel. ----- we both dig travelling, fortunately we have overlap.. i gotta do my dirt poor 3rd world trekking in chicken bus thing w/o cheetah tho. that sorta stuff is hard w/another person (lots of ups and downs, esp internally) we both dig renting a nice car and hitting the road though, tho he suprised me w/an interest in cuba recently. climbing ometepe & boating down the yangtze i'll be doin on my own.
8. Someone who is spiritual, but not dogmatically religious. (Pagan tendencies are a definite plus.) ----- romantic to the point of understanding magic & the spirit works ok, i can't ask someone to be spiritual since i'm a morbid barely post-nihilist w/a nasty case of zen i'm trying to shake, tho being wierdly superstitious (i think it's childhood wierdness + adhd actually). my mate's too existentialist to even call it that, my sweetheart is wiccan, i'm hoping to catch a case of believing in god(z) etc from him. :)
9. Someone who is not in therapy...of any kind. ----- i'm actually heading back in (unfinished business i'm tired of blowing off, just stuff left unresolved when i moved north & had to leave a great therapist behind). i've got a ton of admiration from someone willing to tackle shit, or even clever enough to just be going for the skill-building. plus i love watching people grow & learn & discover themselves. now if they're like, screwed up and not coming up for air, that's different.
10. Someone who has a semi-normal relationship with their parents, or who is an amazingly well-adjusted orphan. ----- it's kinda nifty but a background i don't have a clue how to relate to. makes me happy tho to see there's people with good family, i ask a lotta questions about what it's like. mine were too wierd to even peg in a category; weak people in unfortunate circumstances.
11. Someone who likes to be outdoors and do outdoorsy things: e.g. gardening, camping, fishing, swimming, etc. ----- i dig it but they gotta be kinda 50/50 and very enthusiastic about both. :)
12. Someone with all their teeth or reasonable facsimiles thereof. ---- my parents took me to a whack orthodontist, it took me a decade to believe i wasn't hideous b/c of my healthy but way misaligned teeth. i tend to think a lot about what it must be like to have normal teeth. i've been told my snaggletooth is cute enough i kinda like it too now. having teeth that lean inward sucks in this age of poofy lips tho. grr. i've considered buying a cute lil overbite. or some lips. vanity is such a pain in the butt...
13. Someone who would be willing to relocate. I've moved enough...I'm staying here. ----- i'm way in love with seattle.. otoh, standing agreement is i'd go anywhere to see cheetah in a job that makes him ecstatic, esp if it puts me through music school. outide our relationship something like that would too easily be a dependant situation, i've seen it blow couples up.

From: [identity profile] chaizzilla.livejournal.com

and yet more (yay unemployment!)


14. Someone who wants to buy an old barn and convert it into a house. ----- sailboat and a schoolbus, we both wanna. :)
15. Someone who likes to ride horses. ----- lazily cruise the backroads on motorcycles
16. Someone who is kind to animals and people. ----- absolutely, though my perspective on what constitutes kind isn't neccs. a common one.
17. Someone who loves living in the country but likes to visit the city. ----- vice versa for me, cheetah too :)
18. Some liberal arts background would be nice, but not absolutely necessary. ----- i'm LD so i love academia but am petrified of it. if the grok and appreciation are there that's the ticket. cheetah's got a more sophisticated background, i'm more of an effusive and opinionated spaz.
19. Someone who earns about the same or more than me. ----- nonissue w/o context
20. Someone who is optimistic and good-natured. ----- hrm, my mate is someone people adore, but he's no fluffhead. i'm surly, moody, morbidly depressed, and not even sure what good-natured means. :) i like honest people though i hate vampiric button-pushers (which i spose makes them dishonest but i've known a few and they can be dazzling when they're not threatened by you or want something from you or just being vindictive).

hee i told you i wasn't going anywhere reallllly....
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From: [identity profile] catelin.livejournal.com

Re: and yet more (yay unemployment!)


>hee i told you i wasn't going anywhere reallllly....<

And I am SUPREMELY HAPPY about that! Yay!!! : )

From: [identity profile] multifacetsflux.livejournal.com

hi


my name is Jewell. i like reading your journal, so i added you as a friend... now, you're under no obligation to add me in return. i also don't comment on everything you enter, i hope that's ok... of course, if you'd like to comment on my journal or look in on me on occasion, that's fine.
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From: [identity profile] catelin.livejournal.com

Re: hi


Hello Jewell! Thanks for letting me know you were out there. I look forward to reading your journal as well. : )

From: [identity profile] multifacetsflux.livejournal.com

Re: hi


hi, catelin! thanks for such a cheery response... looking forward to sharing with you *big cheesy smile*
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From: [identity profile] catelin.livejournal.com

Re: a rush and a push and this land is ours...


Ha! The real question is where'd you lose the 1.5? No points for Texans...sorry, it's just my policy against regionalism. ; ) Although, after perusing bits and pieces of your world today, I'll give you the extra points just for being who you are. Seems like a fair trade to me.

From: [identity profile] notwolf.livejournal.com

Re: a rush and a push and this land is ours...


..you make more money than i do, and i'm missing one tooth, but it's in the back, you'd never know unless, well...ummm....well i just told you, so you know. no never mind.
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